Need a title

[Raven]

I saw a film on sky movies about seven german soldiers who go into a bunker of some kind and after a while they find an old man who is talking some gibberish about ghosts, soon the group are all being plagued by haunting images of some guys with rags around their eyes standing in a line.

Most of the group go mad and start turning on each other. It was a great film but i missed the first half hour or so and dont know the title. Does anyone know what this is called please?

[Elias]

I haven't seen it yet but it souds like you're talking about "The Bunker"...

Here's the link on IMDB...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0252963/

[Raven]

Thanks thats the one :D its deffinately worth a watch. The atmosphere and mood of the film just keeps you on edge through the entire film simply brilliant

[DevilMan]

There's a similar film that came out around the same time on DVD as THE BUNKER did. It's called DEATHWATCH.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002235P8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

1917. The Western Front, World War I. 9 British soldiers are fighting their way through a complicated network of German trenches. They find one that's abandoned and decide to secure it until reinforcements arrive to help them get past enemy lines. The soldiers will soon discover that they are not alone in the trench like they originally thought they were, and it's not German soldiers stalking them but something else. Something not quite human...

-Steve

[Raven]

cheers thats one to add to my dvd collection

[DevilMan]

I recently watched both THE BUNKER and DEATHWATCH and between the two, I thought DEATHWATCH was much better. It had a larger budget, better special effects, and better acting. They're both almost the same kinda movie (storywise anyway) but DEATHWATCH was just an overall better film in general.

Not to mention, I had a very hard time in THE BUNKER feeling sorry for the main characters. I mean, they were damned Nazi or German soldiers who were getting killed, and that's the best thing for 'em in my opinion. DEATHWATCH, however, had British troops trapped in a deep trench getting attacked by supernatural forces so you felt sorry for them even though some were unlikable to begin with.

Of course, I don't plan to buy either one for myself but I'd definitely suggest you check out DEATHWATCH if you enjoyed THE BUNKER.

-Steve

[Raven]

Cool i really didnt care much for the characters but i thought the whole concept of the film was simply fantastic i havent seen something so original for some time so ill deffinately be tracking down DEATHWATCH if its as good as you say it is

[DevilMan]

Originally posted by raventt@Jan 2 2005, 08:49 PM
but i thought the whole concept of the film was simply fantastic i havent seen something so original for some time
Then I betcha you'll certainly dig DEATHWATCH. As I said, their stories are very similiar even though one takes place during World War 1 and the other takes place during World War 2.

By the way, I went looking around and there's a bunch of different DVD covers for the pair. Check 'em out...

THE BUNKER

From the USA... http://cinemabizarre.blogspot.com/The%20Bunker%20US%20DVD%2001.jpg From Germany... http://cinemabizarre.blogspot.com/The%20Bunker%20German%20DVD%2001.jpg

From France... http://cinemabizarre.blogspot.com/The%20Bunker%20French%20DVD%2001.jpg From the UK... http://cinemabizarre.blogspot.com/The%20Bunker%20UK%20DVD%2001.jpg

DEATHWATCH

From the USA... http://cinemabizarre.blogspot.com/Deathwatch%20US%20DVD%2001.jpg From Germany & UK... http://cinemabizarre.blogspot.com/Deathwatch%20German%20UK%20DVD%2001.jpg

From France... http://cinemabizarre.blogspot.com/Deathwatch%20French%20DVD%2001.jpg

-Steve

[Raven]

they are all cool covers :)

[Unconscious]

That reminds me.

I heard Rumors that Hollywood is going to make a Wolfenstein movie.

[newyawkripper]

If were talking Nazi-Zombies, Dont forget the mother of them all, Shockwaves

http://www.haikosfilmlexikon.de/anbieter/marketing/bilder12-2002/Shockwaves.jpg

[JohnShaft]

Originally posted by DevilMan@Jan 2 2005, 06:59 PM
Not to mention, I had a very hard time in THE BUNKER feeling sorry for the main characters. I mean, they were damned Nazi or German soldiers who were getting killed, and that's the best thing for 'em in my opinion. DEATHWATCH, however, had British troops trapped in a deep trench getting attacked by supernatural forces so you felt sorry for them even though some were unlikable to begin with.
That's a very interesting viewpoint Steve. It's one I can both agree, and disagree, with. I recently saw THE BUNKER, but the first time I was exposed to this idea (Nazi's as the *pro*tagonists) was in reading F. Paul Wilson's THE KEEP.

I hadn't seen the movie of THE KEEP at the time but knew a little about the story. I was suprised though, when I started reading, that members of the German army where the main protagonists. I completely assumed it would be Allied Forces holed up in a European keep. But the more I read the more I thought it was a much greater challenge to write, and read, the book that way. Of the two main characters in the book one of them is a moral man caught up in the Nazi machine. Someone who in fact sees the bad in what they have become under Hitler. While the other main character is a total bastard.
I prefer that as an explanation for the reasoning behind the choice than some Hollywood "Man's Ultimate Evil vs. THE Ultimate Evil" tagline.

The Bunker used a similar angle, as the main character has to come to terms with what he had done in service of his country. So I could appreciate it from that level.
I do think it is VERY hard to feel sympathy for Nazi characters, but
I found only the main character in THE BUNKER sympathetic *because* he felt shame for what he had done. How many people in similar situations would not have the courage to stand up for their convictions in the face of such a threat?
I think the sheep mentality is still very much prevalent in humanity, and it causes many people to do things that they would not do alone. As Thomas Fuller said "A mob is a group of persons with heads but no brains."

I've got DEATHWATCH on tape, and have wanted to see it for a while. THE BUNKER I thought was OK, but ultimately, while it did some things well, it was far too unimaginative and directionless in much of the film. I hope DEATHWATCH is better. Though it is a film I have heard little about since it was released.

Oh, and forgive me for getting all serious. :paperbag:

[Raven]

lol dont worry serious can be good sometimes. :D

[DevilMan]

Originally posted by JohnShaft+Jan 3 2005, 01:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JohnShaft @ Jan 3 2005, 01:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Of the two main characters in the book one of them is a moral man caught up in the Nazi machine. Someone who in fact sees the bad in what they have become under Hitler.[/b]
I can certainly see your point even though I haven't read the book or seen the movie, THE KEEP.

Originally posted by JohnShaft@Jan 3 2005, 01:48 AM
The Bunker used a similar angle, as the main character has to come to terms with what he had done in service of his country. I found only the main character in THE BUNKER sympathetic *because* he felt shame for what he had done. How many people in similar situations would not have the courage to stand up for their convictions in the face of such a threat?
However, as for THE BUNKER, if you remember, the character in question felt remorse for killing fellow German soldiers who had tried to make a break from the ranks of the Nazi war machine. For whatever reasons those soldiers did what they did to earn the firing squad, I didn't really care. They were probably wicked to the core too. And would they (or the character we're talking about) have felt the same remorse for the American soldiers they probably shot and lord forbid, the Jewish people they might have killed? Nope, not at all. Perhaps making him feel sorry for terrible deeds done to innocents during the war (and not other German soldiers) might have been a better angle if we're supposed to care for the character.

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And you're right, it's just like watching the World War 2 flick, STALINGRAD where the movie's main characters are a troop of German soldiers trapped and cut off while fighting in the frozen tundra of Russia. The movie goes through their ordeals of freezing to death, starving (and turning to cannibalism in the book), and so forth. But again, they were the "bad guys" trying to invade Russia so why feel sorry for what they most certainly deserve. And that's suffering, then death.

Then again, this might just be me and the fact that I'm semi-closed minded about the whole subject because I believe the Nazi regime was pure unadultered evil with no redemption what so ever.

Oh well, good thought provoking conversation none the less.

-Steve

[DevilMan]

Originally posted by newyawkripper@Jan 3 2005, 01:48 AM
If were talking Nazi-Zombies, Dont forget the mother of them all, Shockwaves

http://www.haikosfilmlexikon.de/anbieter/marketing/bilder12-2002/Shockwaves.jpg
Don't forget ZOMBIE LAKE and OASIS OF THE ZOMBIES (thanks to 42nd Street Freak for finding this one for me)...

http://cinemabizarre.blogspot.com/zombie%20lake%20dvd.jpg http://cinemabizarre.blogspot.com/Oasis%20Of%20Zombies%20DVD.jpg

-Steve